This looks pretty intense. Their time estimates add up to over 35 days (assuming a full 8 hours of work per day) to complete, although some of the estimates seem a bit weird. Basic Linux installation and usage is given 10 hours which seems like it must be very hand holdy.
Also, there are some rough corners. I went to the course material to see what is covered in that 10 hour course and it starts off with:
*Install a Linux operating system*
We will reuse the content from the PA lecture notes.
Please install the Linux operating system according to PA0.
The Eve of the World's Birth: Development Environment Setup
The Story of the World's Birth - Prologue
PA tells the story of a “Pioneer Creating a Computer.”
The Pioneer intended to create a computer world.
But even the most skilled cook cannot make a meal without ingredients.
To facilitate the creation of this world, even the Pioneer had to put in considerable effort to prepare.
Let's see what tools he gathered.
Submission Requirements (Please read the following carefully. Violations will be at your own risk)
Estimated Average Time: 10 hours
How does this compare to something that might be offered in a strong computer science, computer engineering, or electrical engineering program in the U.S. or Europe?
It’s not really the same scope but Stanford had (has?) a course where you literally fab a simple computer chip yourself from bare silicon to rudimentary packaging. It takes a team on 4 one quarter working pretty much around the clock
I would much rather learners be directed at a proper resource for doing something than trying to include all the info locally which inevitably will get out of date and become incomplete.
Without a proper proxy setup, access to GitHub is often painfully slow from mainline China.
But the choice of Baidu Pan is indeed questionable: You need a Chinese phone number in order to sign up, which is out of reach for many expats living overseas. I don't get why they can’t just mirror it on a university server.
This looks pretty intense. Their time estimates add up to over 35 days (assuming a full 8 hours of work per day) to complete, although some of the estimates seem a bit weird. Basic Linux installation and usage is given 10 hours which seems like it must be very hand holdy.
Also, there are some rough corners. I went to the course material to see what is covered in that 10 hour course and it starts off with:
That PA0 link goes to https://ysyx.oscc.cc/docs/ics-pa/PA0.html which is entirely in Kanji but doesn't appear to have any extra information about installing Linux.The machine translation of that page is amusing:
How does this compare to something that might be offered in a strong computer science, computer engineering, or electrical engineering program in the U.S. or Europe?
It’s not really the same scope but Stanford had (has?) a course where you literally fab a simple computer chip yourself from bare silicon to rudimentary packaging. It takes a team on 4 one quarter working pretty much around the clock
In the left menu there's a PA0 item. When you click on it, sub-items appear.
Here is one of the sub-items: https://ysyx.oscc.cc/docs/ics-pa/0.1.html#installing-ubuntu
The directions in question:
This course is not impressing me.I would much rather learners be directed at a proper resource for doing something than trying to include all the info locally which inevitably will get out of date and become incomplete.
Yes, makes sense to me, especially since it isn’t really even the purpose of the course.
I think it's a difficult thing to scale. But they're open about the results they've been able to achieve, and the challenge of scaling.
https://ysyx.oscc.cc/en/project/intro-past.html
I’m guessing a good chunk of the page is AI generated - em dashes and random emojis.
Automatic translation, for sure, as evidenced by this sentence in the two's complement section:
In fact, complement is a concept in counting systems, and the Chinese term for it is "complement".
Some folks actually were taught to use em-dashes as part of their normal writing, especially if you've taken a technical writing course.
I dislike that people think you're an AI if you're using proper typography. :(
Just writing multiple paragraphs with compound-complex sentences makes people think you're an AI. :(
35 days (of 8 hours) is equivalent to 10 ECTS (European Credit thingies).
So equivalent to 2x 90minutes lectures + homework
That link is in Chinese, not kanji. The word “kanji” specifically refers to Chinese characters being used to write the Japanese language.
Background: https://ysyx.oscc.cc/en/project/intro.html
Thanks, I was looking all over the linked page for some kind of overview.
I still don't get it. It seems to address chinese students and graduates. Are non-chinese learners allowed to register?
If anyone sees this and wants a much more accessible intro to how CPUs work, I would strongly recommend "NAND2TETRIS"
From the "Installing Logisim" section:
Risky click! Logisim-evolution is available on Github directly, FWIW.Without a proper proxy setup, access to GitHub is often painfully slow from mainline China.
But the choice of Baidu Pan is indeed questionable: You need a Chinese phone number in order to sign up, which is out of reach for many expats living overseas. I don't get why they can’t just mirror it on a university server.
Seems to be an open course (mood) by nanjing u